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A FEW Kingsnakes...
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Mar 04 2010, 9:50 pm - By Jlassiter

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I've been working my tail off finishing up my website....I've been taking tons of pics so I wanted to share some of the pretty good ones that I got......

You can't beat the variability of kingsnakes.....Especially Mexicana.....But there are some getula pics thrown in there for contrast.....LOL



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-John Lassiter-
CoastalBendCaptiveBreeding.com
Mar 05 2010, 1:22 pm - Replied by: Greatballzofire

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Your kings are as usual spectacular!
Here is one of the two baby pyros I got the other day from the same breeder as my older pyros. They are in blue so don't look so hot now. The unique things about this one are she has extra bands and is from an egg of twins.


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Mar 05 2010, 2:39 pm - Replied by: Jlassiter

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Thanks GBOF......That is a cool Pyro there.....I have a pair coming soon that are het for Sentz Line Hypo and Hypoerythrism.......
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-John Lassiter-
CoastalBendCaptiveBreeding.com
Mar 05 2010, 4:44 pm - Replied by: Greatballzofire

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http://www.vmsherp.com/LCMutations.htm
Hypoerythrism

 "Red pigmentation is greatly reduced in the xanthophores. Yellow pigmentation in the xanthophores is still present. Additionally, yellow pigments in the form of carotenoids are still retained in the xanthophores. This accumulates with age and may be a major contributing factor in the overall appearance of some animals."

So does that mean that where the red should normally be the snake will be yellow instead? A black, yellow and white pyro? Do you have a photo of such an animal?
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Mar 05 2010, 4:52 pm - Replied by: Jlassiter

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Greatballzofire wrote:
http://www.vmsherp.com/LCMutations.htm
Hypoerythrism

 "Red pigmentation is greatly reduced in the xanthophores. Yellow pigmentation in the xanthophores is still present. Additionally, yellow pigments in the form of carotenoids are still retained in the xanthophores. This accumulates with age and may be a major contributing factor in the overall appearance of some animals."

So does that mean that where the red should normally be the snake will be yellow instead? A black, yellow and white pyro? Do you have a photo of such an animal?


Not quite....If the snake NEVER had yellow pigment it and only has red, black and gray in it's normal phenotypic state and it is hypoerythristic it only has the reduced red pigmentation.  The red is salmon/pink color instead of red......Erythrin is still present but it is reduced.....xanthaphores are not reduced or absent since there is no yellow to reduce and be absent....And Axanthic snake such as an axanthic splendida is black and white rather than black and yellow....It is not anery because there is no red for it to be lacking.  A true anery snake is axanthic as well.....But a snake can be axanthic and not anery.....


Have you ever seen amelanistic tricolors that are white, red and yellow as hatchlings....Then later the white (where the black used to be) turns yellow?  This is closer to what you described above, but the melanism is absent then the xanthaphores yellow take over the white area with age.....


I hope I did not confuse you......
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-John Lassiter-
CoastalBendCaptiveBreeding.com
Mar 05 2010, 5:35 pm - Replied by: Greatballzofire

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This is one of those things I have to read over several times then I finally grok it! LOL!

Here is the other baby, another female. The parent stock is third generation descended from snakes the breeder gathered himself from the Huachuca Mtns several years ago. I am very fond of the original heavily black and red types, even though the reduced black seems to be the fashion now. I like them to look like I just found them under a rock in the wilderness. I can hardly wait for them to shed so I can feed and photograph them, and post some decent pictures.
Here is a nice map for Pyromelana:
Sonoran Mtn Kingsnake Map
created by Rogue_Reptiles at Kingsnake.com.

I like how in some of your photos you have utilized a slab or two of flat rock to place the snake on for the photo. This is very natural looking and attractive.


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Mar 05 2010, 6:14 pm - Replied by: martenfisher

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I personaly would never want to reduce the red in a tricolor. That is like no cheese on your pizza.

 

 

 

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Mar 05 2010, 6:46 pm - Replied by: snakehead

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As always very nice John! What is that all yellow snake, I think number 17?

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Jorge Sierra

My site > sierrasnakes.com

Mar 06 2010, 1:40 pm - Replied by: Jlassiter

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martenfisher wrote:

I personaly would never want to reduce the red in a tricolor. That is like no cheese on your pizza.



I know what you mean Marten...The RED is what makes them so attractive......I guess it's just a the whole morph craze that makes people race to a proverbial "finish" line....LOL

I like all snakes......
Regards,
-John Lassiter-
CoastalBendCaptiveBreeding.com
Mar 06 2010, 1:43 pm - Replied by: Jlassiter

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snakehead wrote:
As always very nice John! What is that all yellow snake, I think number 17?


Thanks....

That is a Lloyd Lemke line albino Holbrooki.....It hatched out white with yellow speckles just like any other amel, but the white turned yellow overtime much like some amel tricolors do......

I got her from Mike Madec at ISIS Reptiles.....Out of a clutch of six.....Two turned yellow...This female I have and another......

It is a strange snake.....It has "raised" scales and feels like an Angolan Python......You can see an underlying yellow holbrooki pattern underneath the overall yellow ground color.....
Regards,
-John Lassiter-
CoastalBendCaptiveBreeding.com
Mar 06 2010, 3:01 pm - Replied by: snakehead

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Wow very interesting! Mike Madec has top notch snakes. I recently purchased a Lemke line Brooks, umm.. Florida King pair from him. The female is T- neg snow and the male is T- neg albino. That yellow speckled will be very intereting to see develop!

If there is no GOD, then we live in vain!

 

Jorge Sierra

My site > sierrasnakes.com

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